Thief guild

[allah]

Am jucat gothic 2 de vro 3 ori dar nu am dat nici odata de thief guild, am aflat ca exista datorita acestui forum. .Acuma vreau sa mai joc acest joc inca odata si sa ma bag si la thief guild, dar as vrea sa stiu exact cum ca sa nu-l joc de o suta de ori daca gresesc ceva.Din cate am inteles eu exista cativa hoti prin korhinis pe care nu trebuie sa-i spun lui lord andre, nu? Intrebarea e care sunt acesti hoti si cum iau misiune legata de ei?.Va rog sa imi spuneti foarte detaliat.  

[RedDevil]

Este Rangeru(asa parca-l chema) ala, care a furat niste bani de la un merchant din Khorinis. Iei questul de la merchant(nu mai stiu cum il cheama) si te duci sa-l intrebi pe Rangeru, el fuge, tu il urmaresti pana il prinzi, ii iei banii si-i duci la merchant, dupa care il torni la lord Andre. Lordul iti da 100 recompensa. Dupa asta te duci la taverna aia din docks(acolo unde e Moe la usa) si innkeep-ul de acolo(ala care-ti cere bani pe informatie) iti spune ca te-a cautat unu' si ca te asteapta in spatele unei case din docks(aproape de ala care vinde peste). Te duci acolo, te ia ala la bataie si dupa ce-l omori iei de la el o cheie. Cheia asta o folosesti ca sa intri in sewer(cred ca stii unde este). Toate astea merg daca-l torni mai intai pe Rangeru.

[himself]

Nu-i adevarat! Sunt tre questuri pe care tre sa le faci ca sa ajungi in Thief's Guild:
-Pe rengaru nu il denunti
-Pe Ala care vinde pesti nu il denunti dupa ce gasesti intr-o pestera un peste u un bilet in ea
-Faci questul "The False Messenger" de la tipul din barul din doks(il intrebi pe innkeeper despre "Special work"
Si atunci cand te intalnesti cu ala in spate acolo iti da cheia pentru sewers! Si iei si XP si nu tre sa-l omori pe ala de jos care te poate invata niste chestii

[RedDevil]

Se putea si cum am spus eu. Eventual puteai sa iei si questul de la lord Andre, sa extermini thief's guild. Banuiesc ca asa esti mai loial ghildei, dar eu nu prea i-am dat importanta, daca nu era ghilda principala. Plus ca n-am gasit niciodata blood chalice-urile. Acum stiu unde sunt dar nu ma trage inima sa mai incep o data pt un quest(l-am terminat deja de 2 ori).

[Ktav]

eu am gasit thief's guild cum a zis RedDevil...

[allah]

Am facut doua din cele trei misiuni pe care le am de facut.Mi-a ramas aia numita the fishmonger.Ca sa o fac trebuie mai intai sa fac bandits raids dar e cam grea mai ales ca am joc pe add-on si am luat-o de la inceput asa ca tre buie sa ma bag la o factiune.Intrebarea este daca ma bag la militia o sa mai pot face misiunea the fishmonger si sa ma bag la thief guild?Stiu ca atunci cand eram la paladini nu puteam sa fac misiune lui nagur deaorece nu vroia sa mi-o dea.

[himself]

eu am gasit thief's guild cum a zis RedDevil...

Ala era defapt un "backdoor"...o alternativa ascunsa...dar se pare ca era mi usoara!

[Ktav]

Ala era defapt un "backdoor"...o alternativa ascunsa...dar se pare ca era mi usoara!

vai, ce tupeu pe noi! e ca si cum am fi trisat nu?  

[himself]

hahahaha! Nu dar...ma rog...e normal sa faci cele 3 questuri...asa primesti si experienta

[RedDevil]

Pai faci cele 3 questuri oricum, numai ca le rezolvi in alt mod. In plus mai iei si 100 pt Rangeru, il torni pe ala cu pestele, omori banditii...questurile tot le faci, nu conteaza cand...E drept ca esti mai "thief" asa, dar sa-mi spuna cineva ca s-a bagat in thief's guild fara sa jefuiasca chesturile(gasesti acolo o amuleta super). Asa ca hot adevarat nu esti...
Mi se pare (nu sunt sigura) ca Nagur nu-ti da questul nici daca esti novice.

[allah]

Gata m-am bagat si io la thief guild.Am facut misiunea de initiere si acuma sunt la bloodchalises.Sunt destule misiuni de facut pt. thief guild sau gasesc bloddchalises si gata?Sper ca mai sunt ca am facut aproape toate sidequesturile la gothic 2.  

[RedDevil]

Parca iti mai da un quest, ala care te invata sneak, am uitat cum il cheama, sa-i aduci un obiect ciudat.

[himself]

SEXTANT!
SI la inceput iti mai da niste questuri..si oricum cel mai fain e ca poti sa te duci la cele 2 STASHURI secrete a lor si sa "faci curat" pe acolo :p

[allah]

Doar unu mai e? Pacat speram sa primesc mai multe qusturi.Asa stau si astept nerabdator gothic 3 la care o sa ma uit siderat la cutia jocului pentru ca nu o sa-mi mearga.  

[Wotan]

Din pacate-s putine questuri la guildu asta secret. si ce m-am chinuit sa deschid fosta lada a lui Fingers...dupa ce m-am perfectionat

[allah]

Chiar ca pacat.Nici nu mai am ce sa fac in joc.Am facut aproape toate sidequesturile.    

[amp3r]

Ma imi spune si mie cineva cum sa intru in  thief guild mai detaliat pls! Am terminat jocu da de asta nu stiu1?  

[doro69]

SPOILERS!

C1.3.S6 SIDEQUEST: Entrance to the Thieves Guild
 By now, you should have completed enough quests to get into the secret
 Thieves Guild. Wether you intend to join them or kill them, you first need to
 gain entrance. There's two very similar ways of getting the key to the
 sewers. In both cases you need to complete 2 quests and 1 sidequest either in
 favour of the Thieves, or in favour of the Milita. They are:

  - A Brazen Thief
  - Bandit Raids + The Fishmonger
  - The False Messenger or Baltram's Shipment

 Getting into the Thieves Guild the good way: If you let Rengaru get away in A
 Brazen Thief you're on the Thieves good side. If you completed the Bandit
 Raids, and then gave the stinking note to Halvor, but didn't turn him in for
 it but rather struck a deal, you're also on the Thieves good side. And last,
 if you completed the False Messenger by giving Bartram's Package to Nagur,
 you're also on the good side of the Thieves.

 When all this is done, go see Kardif at the PegLeg and he will tell you about
 a certain person that was in looking for you. This stranger asked to meet you
 behind The Slimy Skate, Halvor's fish store.

 Go there and meet Attille, a messenger and assasin for the Thieves Guild
 (just down a bit from Edda). Upong meeting him in the Thieves favour, you'll
 recieve +300xp. He'll recount all the good deeds you have done, and hand you
 a key along with a special invite to the Thieves Guild, then see you off.

 Head over to where you found Garvell, and jump off the docks into the ocean.
 Swim around the right and you should see a sewer exit with a door. The key
 you got from Attille will open this door. Open it and head to the right
 immediately, then follow this sewer hall south, then west until you meet
 Jesper. Tell him you got an invite from Attille and he'll escort you to see
 Cassie, their leader. You don't have to join the Thieves and can walk freely
 out again as long as you don't rat them out at this point, but the Thieves
 Guild have some additional quests and things to do. Consult the Constantino's
 Ring, The Blood Chalices and more for what to do at the Thieves Guild.

 If you choose the path of Joining the Militia without being a citizen, and
 take up Andre's quest of rooting out the Thieves Guild, you have probably
 done the above three quests in a way that has upset the Guild. Once you have
 done all three quests disfavourly of the Thieves (put Rengaru, Halvor, and
 Nagur in jail), you can go see Kardif at the PegLeg too and he will tell you
 similar story about a person wanting to see you behind Halvor's fish store.
 This time around however, Attille have been sent to kill you. You'll get
 +50xp when you meet Attille and he'll recount all the bad deeds you have done
 and how the Thieves Guild see you as a threat. He'll then try to kill you.
 Finnish him off and you'll find the sewer key on his body.

 When you enter the sewer's after killing Attille you'll meet Jesper as usual,
 but this time you won't have any friendly options and have to take him out
 (atleast I remember it that way). Head up to where Cassie is after that and
 talk to her. You'll still get the option of joining the Thieves Guild instead
 of ratting them out, but if you decline at this point Cassie will attack you
 (and probably kill you). If you join the Guild here, things will revert to a
 normal state where you have to complete the initiation quest for the thieves
 and can be a normal member. If you decline to be able to join the Militia
 (see Member of the City Guar) without being a citizen, you will have to kill
 all three Thieves down here. That is, Cassia, Jesper and Ramirez. This is
 extremely hard as both Cassia and Ramirez are strong foes, especially at the
 level you probably are at this point. In addition, Cassia is the only one who
 can teach you to PickPocket.

 Talk to Cassia about teaching and you'll learn that there are 3 things the
 Thieves can teach you. Cassia teaches PickPocket and Dexterity, while Jesper
 can teach you to Sneak if you haven't learnt it from Bartok already, and
 finally Ramirez can teach you how to Pick Locks if you haven't learnt that
 from Thorben.

edit: um, sry ca am uitat de spoilers, oricum e in engleza si e lung si iti dai seama de la inceput ca e spoiler

daca va intereseaza si cum gasiti Blood Chalices:

SPOILER!!

After completing the Constantino's Ring quest and becoming a full member of
 the Thieves Guild, you can ask Cassia for more work and she will tell you
 about the famed Blood Chalices. Some historic treasure that would be very
 valuable to collectors if the full set was gathered. This quest absolutely
 requires you to know both Sneaking, Lock Picking and Pick Pocketing. You also
 need to complete S9 Valentino for his chest key.

 There are 6 chalices in total, almost all of them located in the upper quarter
 of Khorinis, so you need acess there as well. It's quite possible to get some
 of these outside the Thieves Guild, and they will sell to merchants for less
 than a normal gold chalice separately. If you do happen to do this though, be
 sure to remember who you sold it to.

 The First Blood Chalice
 Or the easiest one to get for now. It seems one of the upper quarter citizens
 borrowed some money from Lehmar, one Lutero, and Lehmar keeps a Blood Chalice
 as safety. You'll be clued into this later if you happen to visit Lutero's
 house, prefferably at night. The blood chalice is found in the chest in
 Lehmar's house.

 The Second Blood Chalice
 Is located in the upper quarter, as is the rest of them too once you have the
 first. When you enter the upper quarter you have houses lining the right side,
 so we'll start there. You have to do this at night, sneaking into the houses
 without being noticed, otherwise you'll have the paladins on your tail soon
 enough. The first house on the right belongs to a mister Gerbrandt. Take care
 so Lothar doesn't see you entering the house, otherwise you're fine.

 Loot the place clean, ground and first floor. In a chest on the first floor -
 the combination is RR-L-RR-L, you'll find the second Blood Chalice.

 The Third Blood Chalice
 Out of Gerbrandt's house and into the next on the right using the same stealth
 and caution. Loot the place clean and head upstairs. Nod to Valentino's wife
 (yep, this is his house, but he's out drinking probably) and notice the lamp
 on the wall on top of the stairs. It's the only lamp in the house that is NOT
 lit. Position yourself in front of it and press the mousebutton as you would
 pick up or use something and you should activate a hidden lever. Don't stand
 to close, but move around a bit to get it right. This will open a hidden room
 downstairs.

 You can also pick the chest here - combination LL-RR-LL. Downstairs again,
 you'll see the hidden room and a chest by the fireplace. Open the chest using
 Valentino's key from earlier (see S9 Valentino) for the third Blood Chalice.

 The Fourth Blood Chalice
 The now 'deposed' judge and former head of Khorinis owns the fourth chalice.
 His house is on the right side of the town hall, with a special guard outside.
 You have to do this by day though. Enter the house and head upstairs to talk
 to the judge. You'll get an option to pick pocket his key (dex30) and also
 note a coat of arms (the shield) hanging strangely low on the wall behind the
 armchair here. Use it to activate a hidden lever downstairs. You might have to
 do this by night.

 Downstairs you'll see the hidden room right next to the fireplace, and a chest
 requiring the judge's key. Inside is the fourth chalice.

 The Fifth Blood Chalice
 From entering the upper quarter through the main gate, pass the first house,
 and head left through the alley. Continue staying to the left and there are 4
 houses lined up in a half-circle around the square here. The first belongs to
 Fernando, the second to Lutero, the chap that gave his chalice to Lehmar to
 borrow some coin. We want the third house however. At night, Wambo or a city
 guard is patrolling this area rather suspiciously and it can be a bit tricky
 to enter the second house. You can pay off Wambo with 250 gold if you want, if
 you previously talked to Ramirez about the upper quarter - Wambo will then
 stay away, but it isn't neccesary. Early in the morning (around 4-6), only the
 city guard will stand watch, and he can be fooled. Position yourself one step
 outside the doorway to the second house and turn your back againts the opening
 looking at the city guard. Take one step back into the house and he comes
 running - step out again quickly and hear him tell you to stay the hell out of
 there. As he turns to walk back to his spot, hit sneak and take one step back
 again and you are into the house. A step to the side will put you behind the
 wall so he can't see you.

 Inside, check out the fireplace - there's a key on it that can be a bit tricky
 to spot and grab. When sneaking you probably have to sneak up on the crate of
 logs for the fire, then exit sneak mode to get the key in your focus. Grab it
 and use it to open the chest between the beds in the opposite end of the
 house. Inside is the fifth chalice.

 The Sixth Chalice
 You probably won't have access here yet, as this requires you to have come as
 far as getting an audience with Lord Hagen. Whatever way you do that, once
 inside the town hall, head upstairs and check out the rooms there. The sixth
 and final chalice is located on a table here. Just grab it and you're all set.

 With all six chalices safely in your knapsack, return to Cassia for +300xp and
 a choice award from her selection. You can choose between a Ring of Iron Skin
 (+5 Weapon AC) wich you probably already have one of by now - it's worth about
 30 gold. Othwerwise, you can have 4 Elixirs of Healing (+100hp) or 400 gold.
 I'd go with the potions, but that's me.

 Cassia will also explain that you're pretty much done now and that she won't
 have anything else to do for you. The only real thing left is a quest for
 Ramirez later on.

Si cum iei cheia de la Valentino

SPOILER!!

Both from Coragon and Regis you have probably already heard about the
 obnoxious upper-class citizen by the name of Valentino. You have met him too
 maybe, listening to Vatras during day-time. Now we're going to rough him up a
 bit to set the record straight. Do bring a scroll of Oblivion for this if you
 don't want to pay the fine.

 This takes a little time, as you have to wait til about 4 in the morning to
 do this. Since the times when you can get up from sleeping is either at
 midnight, or 8 in the morning, we will have to find something to do from
 midnight until 4. If you have the Sneaking and Picking Locks skills, this
 would be the perfect opportunity to rob some houses while we wait.

 Once the time is closing, head to Coragon's tavern and locate Valentino. Take
 a seat somewhere and wait until he leaves, then follow him. He will walk
 towards the entrance to the upper quarter. Wait until he passes the city
 guard that stands next to the temple, and until he is about to round the
 corner towards the main street. At this spot you're most unlikely to draw the
 attention of either the temple guard, or the two guards at the upper quarter
 entrance. Give him a thourogh beating and take his 'Chest Key' and 200 gold,
 and his walking stick too if you want. Beating Valentino nets you +80xp. Cast
 an Oblivion afterwards or you'll be reported. The key we need for the Thieves
 Guild quest "The Blood Chalices".

 Once you have beaten up Valentino for the first time, go talk to Regis
 sitting outside Matteo's Store the following morning. Tell him you met
 Valentino...and gave him a good thrashing. Regis will give you a ring -
 Valention's Ring (+5 Weapon AC) that he took when HE beat up Valentino, and
 tells you to pass it on to the next person who beats up Valentino.

 Stop by Coragon's tavern, and Coragon will tell you something amusing - that
 Valentino couldn't pay his bartab last night saying he was robbed, and that
 Coragon gave him a good beating. Give him Valentino's ring you got from Regis
 and welcome Coragon to the "I-beat-up-Valentino-club". He doesn't quite
 understand but leave it at that, for wich you'll recieve +300xp.

[amp3r]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ma lamureste si pe mine cineva ce sunt alea  Blood Chalice  Blood Chalice  Blood Chalice?  :hmm:  

[Keeper]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

nu cred ca vei obtine prea multe raspunsuri cu atitudinea asta :hmm: