Am jucat gothic 2 de vro 3 ori dar nu am dat nici odata de thief guild, am aflat ca exista datorita acestui forum. .Acuma vreau sa mai joc acest joc inca odata si sa ma bag si la thief guild, dar as vrea sa stiu exact cum ca sa nu-l joc de o suta de ori daca gresesc ceva.Din cate am inteles eu exista cativa hoti prin korhinis pe care nu trebuie sa-i spun lui lord andre, nu? Intrebarea e care sunt acesti hoti si cum iau misiune legata de ei?.Va rog sa imi spuneti foarte detaliat. :))
Este Rangeru(asa parca-l chema) ala, care a furat niste bani de la un merchant din Khorinis. Iei questul de la merchant(nu mai stiu cum il cheama) si te duci sa-l intrebi pe Rangeru, el fuge, tu il urmaresti pana il prinzi, ii iei banii si-i duci la merchant, dupa care il torni la lord Andre. Lordul iti da 100 recompensa. Dupa asta te duci la taverna aia din docks(acolo unde e Moe la usa) si innkeep-ul de acolo(ala care-ti cere bani pe informatie) iti spune ca te-a cautat unu' si ca te asteapta in spatele unei case din docks(aproape de ala care vinde peste). Te duci acolo, te ia ala la bataie si dupa ce-l omori iei de la el o cheie. Cheia asta o folosesti ca sa intri in sewer(cred ca stii unde este). Toate astea merg daca-l torni mai intai pe Rangeru.
Nu-i adevarat! Sunt tre questuri pe care tre sa le faci ca sa ajungi in Thief's Guild:
-Pe rengaru nu il denunti
-Pe Ala care vinde pesti nu il denunti dupa ce gasesti intr-o pestera un peste u un bilet in ea
-Faci questul "The False Messenger" de la tipul din barul din doks(il intrebi pe innkeeper despre "Special work"
Si atunci cand te intalnesti cu ala in spate acolo iti da cheia pentru sewers! Si iei si XP si nu tre sa-l omori pe ala de jos care te poate invata niste chestii
Se putea si cum am spus eu. Eventual puteai sa iei si questul de la lord Andre, sa extermini thief's guild. Banuiesc ca asa esti mai loial ghildei, dar eu nu prea i-am dat importanta, daca nu era ghilda principala. Plus ca n-am gasit niciodata blood chalice-urile. Acum stiu unde sunt dar nu ma trage inima sa mai incep o data pt un quest(l-am terminat deja de 2 ori).
eu am gasit thief's guild cum a zis RedDevil...
Am facut doua din cele trei misiuni pe care le am de facut.Mi-a ramas aia numita the fishmonger.Ca sa o fac trebuie mai intai sa fac bandits raids dar e cam grea mai ales ca am joc pe add-on si am luat-o de la inceput asa ca tre buie sa ma bag la o factiune.Intrebarea este daca ma bag la militia o sa mai pot face misiunea the fishmonger si sa ma bag la thief guild?Stiu ca atunci cand eram la paladini nu puteam sa fac misiune lui nagur deaorece nu vroia sa mi-o dea.
Quoteeu am gasit thief's guild cum a zis RedDevil...
Ala era defapt un "backdoor"...o alternativa ascunsa...dar se pare ca era mi usoara!
QuoteAla era defapt un "backdoor"...o alternativa ascunsa...dar se pare ca era mi usoara!
vai, ce tupeu pe noi! e ca si cum am fi trisat nu? :ass:
hahahaha! Nu dar...ma rog...e normal sa faci cele 3 questuri...asa primesti si experienta :)
Pai faci cele 3 questuri oricum, numai ca le rezolvi in alt mod. In plus mai iei si 100 pt Rangeru, il torni pe ala cu pestele, omori banditii...questurile tot le faci, nu conteaza cand...E drept ca esti mai "thief" asa, dar sa-mi spuna cineva ca s-a bagat in thief's guild fara sa jefuiasca chesturile(gasesti acolo o amuleta super). Asa ca hot adevarat nu esti...
Mi se pare (nu sunt sigura) ca Nagur nu-ti da questul nici daca esti novice.
Gata m-am bagat si io la thief guild.Am facut misiunea de initiere si acuma sunt la bloodchalises.Sunt destule misiuni de facut pt. thief guild sau gasesc bloddchalises si gata?Sper ca mai sunt ca am facut aproape toate sidequesturile la gothic 2.
Parca iti mai da un quest, ala care te invata sneak, am uitat cum il cheama, sa-i aduci un obiect ciudat.
SEXTANT!
SI la inceput iti mai da niste questuri..si oricum cel mai fain e ca poti sa te duci la cele 2 STASHURI secrete a lor si sa "faci curat" pe acolo :p
Doar unu mai e? Pacat speram sa primesc mai multe qusturi.Asa stau si astept nerabdator gothic 3 la care o sa ma uit siderat la cutia jocului pentru ca nu o sa-mi mearga. :((
Din pacate-s putine questuri la guildu asta secret. si ce m-am chinuit sa deschid fosta lada a lui Fingers...dupa ce m-am perfectionat
Chiar ca pacat.Nici nu mai am ce sa fac in joc.Am facut aproape toate sidequesturile. :((
Ma imi spune si mie cineva cum sa intru in thief guild mai detaliat pls! Am terminat jocu da de asta nu stiu1? :idiot:
SPOILERS!
C1.3.S6 SIDEQUEST: Entrance to the Thieves Guild
By now, you should have completed enough quests to get into the secret
Thieves Guild. Wether you intend to join them or kill them, you first need to
gain entrance. There's two very similar ways of getting the key to the
sewers. In both cases you need to complete 2 quests and 1 sidequest either in
favour of the Thieves, or in favour of the Milita. They are:
- A Brazen Thief
- Bandit Raids + The Fishmonger
- The False Messenger or Baltram's Shipment
Getting into the Thieves Guild the good way: If you let Rengaru get away in A
Brazen Thief you're on the Thieves good side. If you completed the Bandit
Raids, and then gave the stinking note to Halvor, but didn't turn him in for
it but rather struck a deal, you're also on the Thieves good side. And last,
if you completed the False Messenger by giving Bartram's Package to Nagur,
you're also on the good side of the Thieves.
When all this is done, go see Kardif at the PegLeg and he will tell you about
a certain person that was in looking for you. This stranger asked to meet you
behind The Slimy Skate, Halvor's fish store.
Go there and meet Attille, a messenger and assasin for the Thieves Guild
(just down a bit from Edda). Upong meeting him in the Thieves favour, you'll
recieve +300xp. He'll recount all the good deeds you have done, and hand you
a key along with a special invite to the Thieves Guild, then see you off.
Head over to where you found Garvell, and jump off the docks into the ocean.
Swim around the right and you should see a sewer exit with a door. The key
you got from Attille will open this door. Open it and head to the right
immediately, then follow this sewer hall south, then west until you meet
Jesper. Tell him you got an invite from Attille and he'll escort you to see
Cassie, their leader. You don't have to join the Thieves and can walk freely
out again as long as you don't rat them out at this point, but the Thieves
Guild have some additional quests and things to do. Consult the Constantino's
Ring, The Blood Chalices and more for what to do at the Thieves Guild.
If you choose the path of Joining the Militia without being a citizen, and
take up Andre's quest of rooting out the Thieves Guild, you have probably
done the above three quests in a way that has upset the Guild. Once you have
done all three quests disfavourly of the Thieves (put Rengaru, Halvor, and
Nagur in jail), you can go see Kardif at the PegLeg too and he will tell you
similar story about a person wanting to see you behind Halvor's fish store.
This time around however, Attille have been sent to kill you. You'll get
+50xp when you meet Attille and he'll recount all the bad deeds you have done
and how the Thieves Guild see you as a threat. He'll then try to kill you.
Finnish him off and you'll find the sewer key on his body.
When you enter the sewer's after killing Attille you'll meet Jesper as usual,
but this time you won't have any friendly options and have to take him out
(atleast I remember it that way). Head up to where Cassie is after that and
talk to her. You'll still get the option of joining the Thieves Guild instead
of ratting them out, but if you decline at this point Cassie will attack you
(and probably kill you). If you join the Guild here, things will revert to a
normal state where you have to complete the initiation quest for the thieves
and can be a normal member. If you decline to be able to join the Militia
(see Member of the City Guar) without being a citizen, you will have to kill
all three Thieves down here. That is, Cassia, Jesper and Ramirez. This is
extremely hard as both Cassia and Ramirez are strong foes, especially at the
level you probably are at this point. In addition, Cassia is the only one who
can teach you to PickPocket.
Talk to Cassia about teaching and you'll learn that there are 3 things the
Thieves can teach you. Cassia teaches PickPocket and Dexterity, while Jesper
can teach you to Sneak if you haven't learnt it from Bartok already, and
finally Ramirez can teach you how to Pick Locks if you haven't learnt that
from Thorben.
edit: um, sry ca am uitat de spoilers, oricum e in engleza si e lung si iti dai seama de la inceput ca e spoiler :D
daca va intereseaza si cum gasiti Blood Chalices:
SPOILER!!
After completing the Constantino's Ring quest and becoming a full member of
the Thieves Guild, you can ask Cassia for more work and she will tell you
about the famed Blood Chalices. Some historic treasure that would be very
valuable to collectors if the full set was gathered. This quest absolutely
requires you to know both Sneaking, Lock Picking and Pick Pocketing. You also
need to complete S9 Valentino for his chest key.
There are 6 chalices in total, almost all of them located in the upper quarter
of Khorinis, so you need acess there as well. It's quite possible to get some
of these outside the Thieves Guild, and they will sell to merchants for less
than a normal gold chalice separately. If you do happen to do this though, be
sure to remember who you sold it to.
The First Blood Chalice
Or the easiest one to get for now. It seems one of the upper quarter citizens
borrowed some money from Lehmar, one Lutero, and Lehmar keeps a Blood Chalice
as safety. You'll be clued into this later if you happen to visit Lutero's
house, prefferably at night. The blood chalice is found in the chest in
Lehmar's house.
The Second Blood Chalice
Is located in the upper quarter, as is the rest of them too once you have the
first. When you enter the upper quarter you have houses lining the right side,
so we'll start there. You have to do this at night, sneaking into the houses
without being noticed, otherwise you'll have the paladins on your tail soon
enough. The first house on the right belongs to a mister Gerbrandt. Take care
so Lothar doesn't see you entering the house, otherwise you're fine.
Loot the place clean, ground and first floor. In a chest on the first floor -
the combination is RR-L-RR-L, you'll find the second Blood Chalice.
The Third Blood Chalice
Out of Gerbrandt's house and into the next on the right using the same stealth
and caution. Loot the place clean and head upstairs. Nod to Valentino's wife
(yep, this is his house, but he's out drinking probably) and notice the lamp
on the wall on top of the stairs. It's the only lamp in the house that is NOT
lit. Position yourself in front of it and press the mousebutton as you would
pick up or use something and you should activate a hidden lever. Don't stand
to close, but move around a bit to get it right. This will open a hidden room
downstairs.
You can also pick the chest here - combination LL-RR-LL. Downstairs again,
you'll see the hidden room and a chest by the fireplace. Open the chest using
Valentino's key from earlier (see S9 Valentino) for the third Blood Chalice.
The Fourth Blood Chalice
The now 'deposed' judge and former head of Khorinis owns the fourth chalice.
His house is on the right side of the town hall, with a special guard outside.
You have to do this by day though. Enter the house and head upstairs to talk
to the judge. You'll get an option to pick pocket his key (dex30) and also
note a coat of arms (the shield) hanging strangely low on the wall behind the
armchair here. Use it to activate a hidden lever downstairs. You might have to
do this by night.
Downstairs you'll see the hidden room right next to the fireplace, and a chest
requiring the judge's key. Inside is the fourth chalice.
The Fifth Blood Chalice
From entering the upper quarter through the main gate, pass the first house,
and head left through the alley. Continue staying to the left and there are 4
houses lined up in a half-circle around the square here. The first belongs to
Fernando, the second to Lutero, the chap that gave his chalice to Lehmar to
borrow some coin. We want the third house however. At night, Wambo or a city
guard is patrolling this area rather suspiciously and it can be a bit tricky
to enter the second house. You can pay off Wambo with 250 gold if you want, if
you previously talked to Ramirez about the upper quarter - Wambo will then
stay away, but it isn't neccesary. Early in the morning (around 4-6), only the
city guard will stand watch, and he can be fooled. Position yourself one step
outside the doorway to the second house and turn your back againts the opening
looking at the city guard. Take one step back into the house and he comes
running - step out again quickly and hear him tell you to stay the hell out of
there. As he turns to walk back to his spot, hit sneak and take one step back
again and you are into the house. A step to the side will put you behind the
wall so he can't see you.
Inside, check out the fireplace - there's a key on it that can be a bit tricky
to spot and grab. When sneaking you probably have to sneak up on the crate of
logs for the fire, then exit sneak mode to get the key in your focus. Grab it
and use it to open the chest between the beds in the opposite end of the
house. Inside is the fifth chalice.
The Sixth Chalice
You probably won't have access here yet, as this requires you to have come as
far as getting an audience with Lord Hagen. Whatever way you do that, once
inside the town hall, head upstairs and check out the rooms there. The sixth
and final chalice is located on a table here. Just grab it and you're all set.
With all six chalices safely in your knapsack, return to Cassia for +300xp and
a choice award from her selection. You can choose between a Ring of Iron Skin
(+5 Weapon AC) wich you probably already have one of by now - it's worth about
30 gold. Othwerwise, you can have 4 Elixirs of Healing (+100hp) or 400 gold.
I'd go with the potions, but that's me.
Cassia will also explain that you're pretty much done now and that she won't
have anything else to do for you. The only real thing left is a quest for
Ramirez later on.
Si cum iei cheia de la Valentino :)
SPOILER!!
Both from Coragon and Regis you have probably already heard about the
obnoxious upper-class citizen by the name of Valentino. You have met him too
maybe, listening to Vatras during day-time. Now we're going to rough him up a
bit to set the record straight. Do bring a scroll of Oblivion for this if you
don't want to pay the fine.
This takes a little time, as you have to wait til about 4 in the morning to
do this. Since the times when you can get up from sleeping is either at
midnight, or 8 in the morning, we will have to find something to do from
midnight until 4. If you have the Sneaking and Picking Locks skills, this
would be the perfect opportunity to rob some houses while we wait.
Once the time is closing, head to Coragon's tavern and locate Valentino. Take
a seat somewhere and wait until he leaves, then follow him. He will walk
towards the entrance to the upper quarter. Wait until he passes the city
guard that stands next to the temple, and until he is about to round the
corner towards the main street. At this spot you're most unlikely to draw the
attention of either the temple guard, or the two guards at the upper quarter
entrance. Give him a thourogh beating and take his 'Chest Key' and 200 gold,
and his walking stick too if you want. Beating Valentino nets you +80xp. Cast
an Oblivion afterwards or you'll be reported. The key we need for the Thieves
Guild quest "The Blood Chalices".
Once you have beaten up Valentino for the first time, go talk to Regis
sitting outside Matteo's Store the following morning. Tell him you met
Valentino...and gave him a good thrashing. Regis will give you a ring -
Valention's Ring (+5 Weapon AC) that he took when HE beat up Valentino, and
tells you to pass it on to the next person who beats up Valentino.
Stop by Coragon's tavern, and Coragon will tell you something amusing - that
Valentino couldn't pay his bartab last night saying he was robbed, and that
Coragon gave him a good beating. Give him Valentino's ring you got from Regis
and welcome Coragon to the "I-beat-up-Valentino-club". He doesn't quite
understand but leave it at that, for wich you'll recieve +300xp.
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ma lamureste si pe mine cineva ce sunt alea Blood Chalice Blood Chalice Blood Chalice? :hmm:
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nu cred ca vei obtine prea multe raspunsuri cu atitudinea asta :hmm:
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nu cred ca vei obtine prea multe raspunsuri cu atitudinea asta :hmm:
Bine si nici daca te rog frumos nu-mi spui ce sunt alea Blood Chalice??
daca ne rogi frumos: sunt niste potire care tin de un quest. unele sunt la vedere, altele sunt ascunse.
eu oricum nu o sa-ti spun ca nu am jucat gothic 2 :D..dar era o observatie :)
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nu cred ca vei obtine prea multe raspunsuri cu atitudinea asta :hmm:
Bine si nici daca te rog frumos nu-mi spui ce sunt alea Blood Chalice??
Man, nu e destul de evident mai sus acolo unde scrie cu negru? este waltrough pentru tot questul respectiv.. mai pe simplu totusi, sunt niste cani de aur (6 la numar) care trebuie sa le strangi pentru Thiefs guild. Got it?!
Gata m-am bagat si io la thief guild dar cret ca-i omor pt a ma putea baga la militia. ca am invat tot de la ei.
QuoteGata m-am bagat si io la thief guild dar cret ca-i omor pt a ma putea baga la militia. ca am invat tot de la ei.
Dac-o bati pe aia care e sefa la Thieves Guild inainte sa te bagi in vreo factiune sa-mi spui si mie cum... ;)
@ RedDevil... foloseste scrolls sau ranged weapons .. ori swordfighting dar tre sa stii sa parezi foarte bine dupa care sai aplici una buna peste gura. :kill:
QuoteQuoteGata m-am bagat si io la thief guild dar cret ca-i omor pt a ma putea baga la militia. ca am invat tot de la ei.
Dac-o bati pe aia care e sefa la Thieves Guild inainte sa te bagi in vreo factiune sa-mi spui si mie cum... ;)
Simplu tre sa ai mana 20` si d scroll-uri dinale de 60 damage (ball of fire cred) dai in ea de la distanta repede si ii iei o gramada din health apoi daca ai timp mai tragi o sageata cu arcu si apoi scoti sabia atunci depinde de tine. mie mio luat cam o ora (nu e usor). dar cred ca ai si tu un levlel 5 !!!!
Eu pur si simplu nu am putut sa o omor pe aia fiindca sareau toti pe mine si era nasol :(( dar nu conteaza...trebuie doar sa ii gasesti pe toti care dac parte din thief's guild si apoi te duci la andre si ii zici sa ii toarne el... :pmov
:)) AA cew am patit eu:
1. m-am inscris la gilda hotilor si am plecat sa iau cupele ale pt quest intre timp m-am facut militian cand m-am dus cu toate inapoi la hoti m-au atacat idemiat fara discutii.
Note to self: nu te face militian pana nu termini cu questurile la hoti.
2. daca n-ai 30% la short sword nu prea ii bati usor pe cei thief guild
o metoda ar fi sa o adormi pe cassia si sa-l ieicu sabia la stanga-dreapta pe la spate(sa-l surprinzi) pe cel care gateste si tinel numai inghesuit acolo in cuptor ca sa poata riposta. Cassia doarme din sleep spell da-i in ea se ridica dar nu misca ramane ca si blocata dar ai grija cand dai in ea se tot deplaseaza in directia usii daca a trecut de usa in afara incaperii pe coridor te arde(are master sword 120dmg) :o pe cel care pazeste cuferele il iei la dat si blocat, mare grija dai tu o data apoi blochezi de doua ori (asa face da de doua ori rapid)
3. intrebare: cum iei al saselea blood calise fara sa intri in vreo factie? Avand in vedere ca e in casa lui lord hagen si nu poti intra acolo decat daca esti intr-o factie :hmm: ?
4. am descoperit ca daca nu-l denunti pe rengaru si te faci amic de jaf cu el mai incolo cand esti in guilda de hoti daca te duci la el ii arati semnu hotilor iti da +2 dex, de asemea nu te mai bati cu atilla iti da cheia gratis :cool:
5. o chestie interesanta am gasit la manstire un perete pe care im reusit sa sar si sa intru fara vreo taxa sau permis.
a in legatura cu statuia lui daron cea furata de goblini seamana suspicios de bine o statuie a lui innos din upper quarter din domitorul paladinilor tre sa incerc sa vad daca pot sa-l pacalesc.
6. nu dati old tablets la vatras la inceput aproape de taverna e un om care le vrea ca i le-au fuart hotii da +1 str pe ele
7. metoda de facut bani : m-am facut aprentice la harad am invatat toate sabiile de facut (cea mai buna da pe ea 433 gold :D ) bare de metal are infinite (apar catre doua mereu la el) fieraru de la mercenari
8. am descoperit din greseala ca daca te rogi la orice statuie de-a lui innos pt 100 gold iti da +1 str de 10 ori si +1 dex de 10ori (cate unul pe zi dupa aceea tre sa dormi pana in ziua urmatoare), apoi iti da la mana+2 apoi la hoipoints +5
a descoperit cineva cu ce te ajuta altarele lui beliar inafara de faptul ca daca te rogi la ele iti dau bani???
Inrtebare: unde e sextantul ala nenorocit??? Pls help.